Hola :
Se me ocurrio, bueno las o losque quieran saber mas de la colposcopia el papnicolaou, el virus del papiloma los tratamientos, les mando el link de la pagina de ala Sociedad Americana de Colposcopia y Patologia, a la cual pertenesco y hay un parte donde es educacion para los pacientes les va a servir mucho y pueden darsela a otras personas esta en ingles y ya por fin en español asi no solamente se quedara en unas personas si no pueden enviarselas a sus amigos que no lean en ingles.
http://www.asccp.org/patient_edu.shtml
espero les sirva
Karina Ayala Cureño
México D.F
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Puedes obtener mas información al respecto aquí:
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=7&story_id=18093&name=A+guide+to+healthcare+in+the+Netherlands
Saludos
Ivonne
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Mira como ya te han mencionado existen aseguradoras que te pueden asegurar sin tener todavia el MVV, lo que yo te recomendaria es que tu novio consultara con Verzekeringsite.nl esta organizacion es independiente, los servicios son gratuitos y pueden investigar con el que aseguradoras pueden ayudarlo dentro de estas circuntancias y los costos.
Esta es la página:http://www.verzekeringssite.nl/
Suerte
Angelica
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Les informo a todos aquellos que viven en el area de Delft que una amiga de mi esposa, Lucie Cunningham, se dio a la tarea de iniciar una organizacion de ayuda en cuanto a informacion y asistencia durante y despues del parto.
La organizacion se llama Delft MAMA y toda la informacion la pueden conseguir en delftmama@yahoo. com o escribiendo a Delft MaMa, Tuinstraat 25, 2613RB Delft, Lucie habla espanol, ingles, frnaces y algo de Holandes sitio de internet http://www.geocitie s.com/pralinella /MAMAfrontpagete st2.html
Saludos cordiales a todos
Roberto Valencia
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A parte de que usan medicina alternativa para verte y no tienes que seguir la tediosa espera y papeleo del sistema normal de salud!
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Maternity matters – What to expect in the Netherlands18/ 04/2008 00:00
Amanda van Mulligen looks at some of the challenges and benefits for expatriates of the
maternity system in the Netherlands and how it differs to other countries. The article
includes useful links and an A-Z of pregnancy and birthing in Dutch.
Travelling the road to parenthood is a trip full of excitement and anticipation. Taking this
journey in The Netherlands is a unique experience but a potential culture shock for
unprepared expatriates.
So, what does the Dutch maternity system hold in store? The keyword here is natural. The
viewpoint in The Netherlands is that childbirth is not a medical condition and pregnant
women should not be treated as patients. As a result pain relief is not encouraged and
home births are all the rage.
Choosing a midwife
The first priority is to find a midwife. The role of the doctor or gynaecologist in a normal
pregnancy in The Netherlands is minor and in most cases not involved at all. This is
slightly different to the UK, and a complete contrast to the United States.
Choosing a midwife is often a tough task for an expatriate but three reliable search tools
are at your disposal;
1. A list of local midwives from your GP
2. Word of mouth
3. The Royal Dutch Organisation of Midwives (KNOV) website. Simply enter your home
town (Voer uw woonplaats in) to find a midwife near you.
Your first appointment will be any time from week six of your pregnancy, but more usually
around ten weeks. This initial contact is a good time to let your midwife know how you
visualise the labour and birth process. It is reassuring to know that you can always change
your midwife during your pregnancy if it does not click, or you feel that your birth plan
cannot be carried out as you want.
There's no place like home
You will be asked where you want to deliver your baby. With 30 percent of all births taking
place at home The Netherlands boasts the highest rate of home births in the world. In
Britain home births account for 2 percent of total births, in Belgium this figure is closer to
1 percent. Similarly 99 percent of births in the United States take place in a hospital
environment.
Johanna Pearce delivered her son in England and recalls `We never planned for a home
birth and it wasn't encouraged as it was my first pregnancy." This is no reason to dismiss
a home birth in The Netherlands.
British mother Helen Collin gave birth across the border in Belgium. She explains "Home
births are uncommon in Belgium and it wasn't discussed with the doctor. This was no
problem as I wanted the baby in hospital anyway." Helen is not unique; according to the
midwives at EMBÉ in Zoetermeer it is unusual for an expat to want a home delivery.
Naturally no risks are taken and if there are prevailing medical reasons then a home birth
will not be considered. Joan Da Silva, an Irish expatriate living in Holland, explained that
due to a weak cervix a home birth was not an option. Interestingly enough, unless a
hospital birth is necessary for medical reasons health insurance policies may not cover the
entire bill so check with your insurance provider.
If you are one of the atypical expatriates opting for a home birth then you will receive a
kraampakket from your health insurer. Be warned. For the faint-hearted this can be quite
an eye-opening box of goodies landing on your doorstep. It contains all the items you
need to prepare for a homebirth.
For a hospital delivery you need to register directly with the hospital five months into your
pregnancy. If you are unsure about where to deliver it is a good idea to register with the
hospital anyway. Most hospitals organise information evenings, including a tour of the
maternity unit, which may help you make a decision.
Wherever you plan to deliver you will need to hit the shops, armed with a checklist from
your midwife, for postnatal care supplies. Something guaranteed to raise questions, if not
smiles back home are the metal bed raisers (or beer-crates) you need to hire so that the
height of your bed complies with health and safety regulations for maternity professionals.
Drugs or no drugs, that is the question
In neighbouring Belgium 60 percent of women use pain relief, in the United Kingdom this
figure is closer to a third. In the Netherlands this is just 10 percent. John Furlong, a Brit
living in Madrid, explained that his wife received pain relief 15 hours after labour began.
`'She had an epidural which nearly all Spaniards use. The medical staff was very pro-
epidural." In Holland this is a stance you are more unlikely to come across.
The issue of pain relief is generally not addressed as a matter of course and you should
bring it to your midwife's attention at the first meeting if it is part of your birthing plan.
Pain relief is ruled out at a home birth as midwives are not qualified to administer
anaesthetics.
Although births are becoming more `medicalised' two out of three hospitals in the
Netherlands have no anaesthetist available after office hours, according to Prof. Jan Nijhuis
(Vereniging van Gynaecologen - Association of Gynaecologists) . A report into maternity
care outside normal hours by Gerard Visser (Universitair Medisch Centrum Utrecht) and
Eric Steegers (Erasmus Medisch Centrum in Rotterdam) has led to the current maternity
system being hotly debated in Dutch society. There may be changes afoot, but as it stands
pain relief should not be taken for granted.
Prenatal classes
Instead, the emphasis is placed on natural methods of pain management such as those
taught in prenatal yoga courses. According to Diane Hargraves, an experienced yoga
teacher, "Midwives recommend yoga to complete beginners as well as women who have
practised before as there are so many benefits to be gained, and they have seen the proof
in the delivery unit. Relaxation and breathing techniques can easily be learned in a
pregnancy yoga class.''
Help! I'm pregnant in Holland
• Make sure you know what your medical insurance covers you for so there are no nasty
surprises at a time when the less stress the better!
• Register with a midwife early, usually before the seventh week. Talk to people to get
recommendations and make sure English is not a problem if your Dutch is a little patchy.
• Register yourself with a `kraamzorg' agency, preferably before the 12th week of
pregnancy. Your midwife can direct you to organisations they partner with and your health
insurance provider must be contacted to ensure your chosen kraamzorg is approved by
them.
• Decide where you want your baby delivered – the Dutch are big believers in home
births so make it clear if you want a hospital birth.
• Pain relief? The rate of epidural use in the Netherlands is low and there is an absence
of anaesthetists available out of `normal' hours so do your homework to find out which
hospitals can honour your request for pain relief.
• Choose a prenatal group carefully. Language is a first consideration. How much do you
want your partner involved? Many Dutch groups concentrate on breathing techniques for
natural births.
Whilst expecting her first baby Danijela Furcic attended a prenatal yoga group, "At the
time I thought it was all funny and not too helpful, but when contractions started I was
really grateful for the breathing advice received at these classes!"
Diane Hargraves further explains, "The focus of a prenatal yoga class is developing
awareness through detachment. It brings the realisation that no matter what is going on
around you during labour, you can still keep your focus and move ahead with, what is after
all, a natural process.''
If your Dutch is up to scratch 'Samen Bevallen' is an alternative to pregnancy yoga. The
course emphasises the partner's role during labour and arms you both with breathing and
massage techniques, as well as practical tips and information.
An alternative means of birth preparation is to engage a doula, a relatively new
phenomena in The Netherlands but none the less one gaining popularity. A doula is
present throughout labour and the birth to offer support and guide you.
The national site for doulas has a directory as well as an overview in English.
Of course any prenatal course you attend provides an opportunity to meet other expectant
mothers or couples but the class you choose, and how helpful it turns out to be once
labour starts, does depend on your knowledge of the Dutch language. A young mother
from Montenegro shared that she attended prenatal yoga, "It didn't help much, because I
didn't understand everything well in Dutch." For prenatal courses in English, Access is a
good organisation to contact.
Postnatal care
Most probably the main merit of giving birth in The Netherlands lies in the postnatal care.
It is not unusual to be out of hospital a matter of hours after your baby is born.
There is a logical explanation for the short post natal care in Dutch hospitals; kraamzorg.
This is a maternity care assistant and the envy of many a woman outside of Holland. This
type of maternity care is pretty much unique to The Netherlands. For at least a week after
the birth professional help is on hand. During a home birth the maternity care assistant
supports the midwife and after a hospital birth the maternity care assistant is on your
doorstep within hours of leaving hospital. If your baby is born at night expect an overnight
stay in hospital as the kraamzorg service is not available after hours.
Kraamzorg duties range from care for the new mother and infant, light household duties,
guidance on breast feeding and baby care and looking after other family members (such as
other children). For expatriates away from their support network this assistance can prove
invaluable.
Of course you cannot control all the factors of a natural process but preparation, planning
and research are key factors in ensuring there are no surprises during labour and the birth
of your baby. Louise Silverton from the Royal College of Midwives in the UK states "All the
evidence shows the more informed a woman is about labour, the less pain she will feel,
especially where she is in a familiar environment with people she knows." The Dutch
maternity system is certainly unique but forewarned is forearmed!
Useful links
KNOV – Find a midwife in your area
Access provides a range of child birth and baby course in English in The Hague and
Amsterdam
Prenatal Yoga Teachers and information
GreatExpectations. nl offers courses in English to prepare for birth in The Hague
The Dutch Doula site has a page in English as well as a national directory
Parenting in Holland gives a good overview of pregnancy and birth in Holland, as well as
information for caring for babies and toddlers
Samen Bevallen offers pregnancy courses in Dutch with active participation of a partner
Thuiszorgwinkel supplies items necessary for a home birth and post natal care (in Dutch)
Delft MaMa, for advice and courses on giving birth in the Netherlands for parents (to be)
in Delft and the surrounding area.
Editor's note: Take a look at this article for some recommended pregnancy yoga teachers
and prenatal classes in English.
A-Z of pregnancy and birthing in Dutch
Bedverhogers – bed raisers (available from a Thuiszorgwinkel to hire and a health and
safety requirement for a home birth and post natal care)
Bevalling – labour, giving birth
Bloedonderzoek – blood test
Borstvoeding – breastfeeding
Breken van de vliezen – waters breaking
Hydrofiel luiers – muslins
Kraampakket – items sent by medical insurer to prepare for a home birth and post natal
care
Kraamverzorgster – maternity care assistant
Kraamzorg – maternity care
Kruiken – hot water bottles (metal)
Navelklem – umbilical cord clamp
Poliklinische bevalling – hospital birth
Thuisbevalling – home birth
Thuiszorgwinkel – a national network of shops selling and hiring items for the pregnancy,
birth and post natal care
Uitgerekende datum – due date
Verloskundige – midwife
Vruchtwater – embryonic fluid
Weeën – contractions
Zwangerschap – pregnancy
Zwangerschapscursus – prenatal course
Zwangerschapsyoga – Prenatal yoga
Film: The business of giving birth
Photo credit: the photos used in this article (by Paulo Netto), are from the fim 'The
business of giving birth' a documentary film about home-birthing by Abby Epstein,
Executive Produced by Ricki Lake . Although you missed the benefit screening of this film
in Amsterdam on 21 April, you can still purchase the DVD from the website given below.
Footage of women having babies punctuates the "The business of being born" Each
experience is unique; all are equally beautiful and equally surprising. Giving birth is
clearly the most physically challenging event these women have ever gone through, but it
is also the most emotionally rewarding. Along the way, director Epstein conducts
interviews with a number of obstetricians, experts and advocates about the history,
culture and economics of childbirth. The film's fundamental question: should most births
be viewed as a natural life process, or should every delivery be treated as a potential
medical emergency? As Epstein uncovers some surprising answers, her own pregnancy
adds a personal dimension.
To see the trailer and for more information go to www.thebusinessofbe ingborn.com
If you would like to discuss childbirth in the Netherlands you can pick up the thread
'Having my first baby in NL' on Expatica's community forums. If you haven't registered yet,
you can do so here.
Amanda van Mulligen, British born, moved to The Netherlands in 2000 and runs The
Writing Well, an English language writing and translation business. She is married to a
Dutchman and has one son. Amanda writes about life as an expatriate in Holland as well as
travel articles. For more information visit her website at www.TheWritingWell. eu
Dr. Thung habla español y es buena onda, tiene su consultorio en Amsterdam
>
La direccion de Dr. Thung is Lekstrat 1, su tel. es 020-6642199.
Salu2
Veronica
un doctor de mexico nos lo recomendo, porque ayuda a que los antibioticos funcionen ...
http://www.colloidaalzilver.nl/
QUIROPRACTICOS
También existe una asociación a nivel mundial de OSTEOPATAS, te sugeriría que buscaras alguno en tu región. Ellos son los que curan moviendo los huesos que tienes lastimados, los tratamientos duran menos y son muy buenos. Saludos y que te mejores pronto. Gaby.
En este link
http://www.chiropra ctie.nl/sjablone n/3/webpage/ view.asp? objectID= 466
viene una lista de los quiropracticos en Amsterdam que son miembros de
la Asociacion de Quiropracticos en Holanda, espero que te sirva.
Saludos,
Ana Silvia
Hola,
Veo muchos mensajes sobre el seguro medico.
Es muy complicado, hay muchos diferentes seguros, paquetes etc.
y a veces tu empleador, sindicato u otro club da un descuento a sus
trabajoderes/ miembros.
Probablemente ya lo saben pero pueden recibir un subsidio, el
"zorgtoeslag" cuando no ganan mucho por año, aqui lo pueden calcular:
http://www.toeslage n.nl/reken/ zorgtoeslag/
Saludos,
Richard.
ANESTESIA LOCAL PARA PARTO
Tengo 3 hijos nacidos aqui en Holanda, mis 3 experiencias han sido llenas de incertidumbre, stress y fustracion, pero me han dado experiencia en como funcionan las cosas aqui. Tienes suerte por que apartir de este ano es obligatorio ve el siguiente link:
http://www.volkskra nt.nl/binnenland /article1101943. ece/Ruggeprik_ bij_bevalling_ voortaan_ altijd_mogelijk
> > Para la infección -LEVE- en los ojos, yo he probado unas gotitas
> > naturistas que se llaman OCULO-HEEL. Son de un laboratorio alemán que
> > se llama HEEL, no son baratas (como 9 o 10 Euros por 15 o 20 dosis)
> > pero a mí me quitaron una infección leve y se las recomendé a una
> > amiga a la que le pasó lo mismo y le funcionaron perfecto. Yo conocí
> > los laboratorios estos porque el papá de mi cuñado los estuvo
> > llevando a México hace un tiempo, él es un médico naturista muy bueno.
> > Buscando en internet puedes encontrar la info de Heel.
> > espero te sirva. Saludos y buena suerte
PARTERAS
Bueno, a nosotros nos derivo la partera a
> > un "Zwangerschapskaart " (www.liberislibente r.nl) donde cinco
> personas
> > nos atienden, la idea es conocer a todas porque al momento del
> parto
> > alguna de ellas estará de guardia y será la que recibirá al bebe
o
> te
> > llevara al hospital a que ahí lo reciban. Nunca hemos tenido
> ningún
> > problema, son amables, nosotros no hablamos holandés así que toda
> > nuestra comunicación ha sido en ingles, también son atentas e
> > intentan responder a todas nuestras preguntas. Ellas se encargan
> de
> > darte toda la información para que tu tomes la decisión ya sea en
> > algún estudio extra, lugar para dar a luz, etc, por lo que si
> llegas
> > a preguntar "y usted que piensa" te van a responder que ellas no
> > pueden aconsejarte en que hacer o elegir.
DENTISNTA EN AMSTERDAM
Hola,
yo fui a este doctor que es muy bueno, es holandés pero muy simpático y ha hecho un buen trabajo cada vez!
http://www.dennisve rhoevetandarts. nl/eng_index. htm
matt
EMBARAZO Y CESAREA
Hola, les escribo para compartirles mi experiencia y que les sirva de ayuda.. Yo tuve un embarazo de alto riesgo, estuve en cama mas de 4 meses, al final logre llegar a los 9 meses, pero en esta sociedad una cesarea es un tabu y el aborto una oportunidad.. asi que al final sufri 17 horas para tener mi bebe en el hospital (OLVG de Amsterdam), durante esas horas cogi un virus en el hospital, el bebe tambien,tenia mucha fiebre (40 grados) y muchos escalofrios, me hicieron cesarea casi 5 horas despues de que empeze con la fiebre y el bebe murio a los 2 dias. Yo perdi mucha sangre y todavia despues de 8 meses sigo cargando con las secuelas de los malos manejos del hospital.
Lo que si les puedo decir, es que aqui nos toca ser agresivos, no podemos ser como nos acostumbraron en Mexico, educados y dociles.. Si quieres algo hay que GRITAR y EXIGIR, de otra manera no te escuchan, la familia es otra cosa, yo estoy casada con un holandes y tan pronto supieron que estaba embarazada, fueron comentarios, de debes hacer esto, aquello y etc, no podian entender que debia estar en cama, me creeran que hasta clases de yoga me querian mandar con mis condiciones..... en fin, no dejen que el temor a no saber el idioma, a contradecir a la pareja y familia ponga en peligro su vida o la de los bebes.
Con o sin idioma holandes seguimos siendo personas con los mismos derechos que cualquiera, asi que tenemos todo el derecho de exigir que se nos trate bien...
AHHHHH y si les toca ir al huisarts o al verloskunde deben documentarse bien porque a esos tipos hay que ayudarlos, parecen doctores del pueblo de mi padre de los a;os 20... ni siquiera te tocan...
Saludos
Maria
mbarba_mary@hotmail.com
Hola Mary y Elena,
si en efecto como comenta Elena, una buena opcion son lo seguros de viaje y gastos medicos que venden en MundoJoven y con la aseguradora de MAPFRE Tepeyac. Hace 2 anios cuando yo vine los 3 meses para empezar a estudiar holandes, compre uno por 3 meses, que me costo como 2200 pesos aprox. Esta es una buena opcion si vienes como estudiante, de mochilazo o de trabajo en lo que se arreglan tus papeles etc, pa estar protegido y venir con toda la tranquilidad del mundo.
PERO si vienes con el motivo de vivir con tu pareja holandes(a) la mejor opcion es via el siguiente link que les comparto, yo no sabia sobre esta agencia cuando vine los 3 meses, de otro modo me hubiera ahorrado los 2200 pesos jejeje pero bueno es una agencia de seguros aqui en Holanda, para extranjeros. Ya que en efecto en lo que haces todo el tramite y se tardan en entregarte tu permiso de residencia y sofinumber, no puedes registrarte en ningun seguro como residente en Holanda, pero si es muy importante que vengas protegida en caso de que requieras atencion medica o cualquier posible accidente.
Bueno el caso es que si tienes pareja holandes(a), via su cuenta bancaria pueden pagar desde 1,2,3 semanas o1,2,3meses( en el sitio tu indicas por cuanto tiempo lo quieres y si necesitas mas tiempo lo puedes extender), si te entregan tu permiso de residencia y sofinumber antes de lo previsto o se vence tu seguro de gastos, pero nunca lo usaste, osea lo tuviste de adorno, entonces mandas tu cartita cancelando el servicio y solicitando el reembolso de tu dinero y te reembolsan el 95% de tu dinero, solo te cobran unos cuantos euros por el servicio y ya!
Este es el link
https://www. oomverzekeringen .nl/index. asp
Bueno pues espero les sirva la informaci;o, suerte en sus preparativos, buen viaje y bienvenidas proximamente por estos frios rumbos :p ;)
Saludos,
Rosario
SEGUROS MEDICOS
Los seguros médicos como agis, achmea (que estos últimos ya son el mismo) y demás, efectivamente necesitan el permiso de residencia para poderte asegurar, pero existen seguros como el oomverzekering que te aseguran por un periodo de tiempo en lo que tu permiso está listo; el formulario y demás se encuentra en la página del mismo seguro, pero no es un seguro como agis sino como de viajero, de estancia temporal, como para el caso de los estudiantes, no puedes elegir una farmacia ni un médico familiar, sino que es en caso de emergencia y se puede cancelar en el instante mismo en que tengas tu permiso y apliques al seguro médico de tu pareja, por ejemplo.
Estimados,
Les informo sobre el concierto de guitarra del mexicano José Maria Obeso en La Haya el 15 de Febrero.
He aqui el link:
http://www.uitburo.nl/events/search?text=josé%20maria%20obeso,%20gitaar&except=headGenre:(Tentoonstelling%20OR%20Museum%20OR%20Galerie%20OR%20Buitenexpositie)&ooktentoon=0
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